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there's no progress. >> the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious to come back to us with a counter offer. >> the president told a virginia family on thursday he won't back down on taxing the rich. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one. >> the rebels gain on assad raising fears he might use chemical weapons. that was enough to frighten the russians into talking with hillary clinton about a political transition. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process re -- result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> a tragic turn of events in london. the nurse that first transferred that prank call to duchess catherine is found dead. david axelrod shaves it all off
for the economy. and, frankly, i find it difficult to see how it's better political ground even for the gop. i figured, i didn't get it. so i figured this was beyond my small political brain to understand. so i asked some of my smarter hill republican friends what the theory was here. they told me the idea is while the president can permit the economy to fall over the fiscal cliff, or curb, whatever you want to call it, he can't allow us to default on our debt. that would, like, destroy the economy. that gives republicans a stronger hand or so they think. but really, think about that. here's how it would go. later this month, republicans would, by voting present, which everyone would think was a bit weird, permit the bush tax cuts to expire for income over $250,000. that would let president obama pocket $1 trillion in tax revenue and secure a win on his key priority in the talks. but they would do nothing else. at the end of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic
to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> boehner says the president is not being a helpful negotiator, even though the president apparently designed the negotiating sessions at boehner's request. according to "the new york times," boehner insisted the talks include only himself and the president of the united states. boehner wanted senate democrats and nancy pelosi out of the discussions. democratic senator dick durbin told the times this is now the speaker and the president working this through. democratic leaders say they are satisfied with the briefings that they continue to receive. nancy pelosi seems perfectly happy putting pressure on the republicans. >> why are w
, doesn't you agree, would be tremendous not only to him but to the economy and to our country. >> and we want to bring in and say good morning to congresswoman diane black, a republican from tennessee, a member of the house budget and ways and means committee. congresswoman, is great to have you with me right now. as we speak, house minority leader nancy pelosi is giving her briefing this morning. weep put that up for everybody to see. when we talk about where we are in the staging of all of this, all the drama, the back and forth, the clock ticking, americans truly watching this, you think that the house would be in session today but you all closed up house day early, streamed out yesterday in a walkout. what gives? how do you explain this to the american people when they expect you should be at work trying to resolve this? >> i'm not sure you would call it a walkout. we're waiting for the president to act. we have laid something on the table and we continue to be stalemated by the president and his administration. i am so disappointed that the treasury, geithner, said yesterday they're
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to the fiscal cliff, this threatening of our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk or economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> so here's my sense, congressman mccarthy. why in the minds of republicans aren't they processing it this way? look, president, we'll give you what you want on rates. let them go up. but we have to get something in return. big cuts in the medicare program, and we're willing to make a deal is. that essentially the thinking of speaker boehner at this point? >> the president wants the rates to go up, that doesn't solve the problem and we don't want to be back here in another year or 10 years answering the same question. but right after the election, we sent a plan to the president where we gave revenues but looking for spending cuts. and he took three weeks to come back to us. he has gone on still on the campaign trail, still working through. but you have
, 146,000 new jobs. it's good news for the economy and good news for the president. president obama's approval rating is at a three-year rate. 53%. and 53% say they trust president obama to avoid the fiscal cliff. compared to just 36% who trust republicans in congress. also today speaker boehner said he wouldn't rule out an agreement to raise taxes as part of a fiscal cliff deal. but he also said there's no progress. this is what winning looks like. joining me now, e.j. dionne and thank you both for your time. senator solis, the jobless rate is at a four-year low. that's quite an achievement. >> yes, reverend re. but we still need to do more. in sectors like retail and health care and tourism and hospitality. we need to do more because people are still suffering. we've got to put jobs back in infrastructure and construction and put our teachers. that's why the president is working so hard so we don't go off the fiscal cliff so we keep the most vulnerable people out of harm's way. to pay $2,200. we've got to talk about fairness here and i'm very excited that the public is listening t
show again. >> great to be with you, thank you. gerri: everything's hanging in the banse, economy, middle class income, taxes, you name it, and you and your fellow house members are not going to work. >> well, wait, this is a 24-hour day job, seven days a week. i'm in new york tomorrow looking at the hospitals affected in hurricane sandy, and i feel like i need to do the ground work to investigate that for myself. gerri: you're doing work, but not all the people you work with in washington are. some are just taking time off before the holidays when this big issue is on the plate. nancy pelosi had to say about this. >> we should be here and came as a surprise, and i'm really surprised that the republicans would leave. we maim in tuesday, and we left wednesday at twelve o'clock noon. with all that needs to be done, avoiding the conversation, sounds like people don't want to be in town for some reason. gerri: does she have a right -- are the republicans trying to avoid the conversation? >> no, absolutely not. we had a hearing this morning in the joint economic committee on this issue
to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was speaker boehner's downbeat assessment of fiscal negotiations. he went on putting blame squarely on the president. let's listen. >> this president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious, to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> shortly after, house minority leader nancy pelosi put the blame back on republicans. let's listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans' unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, but in many homes across america it's very -- a very, very lean time. >> and today's jobs report showing 146,000 jobs added in november and unemployment dipping to 7.7% may give the president some leverage in negotiations with boehner. but while the president and speaker boehner are
, there is progress in some key sectors of our economy. we've seen housing finally begin to bounce back for the first time and that has an enormous ripple effect throughout the economy. consumer confidence is as high as it's been. many of you over the last two or three years have experienced record profits or near record profits and have a lot of money in plants and equipment and hire folks. obviously globally, the economy is still soft. europe is going to be in the doldrums for quite some time, asia is not charging forward and some of the emerging markets are not charging forward as quickly as they were maybe a few years ago, but i think all of you recognized and many of you told me is that everybody's looking to america, because they understand if we're able to put forward a long-term agenda for growth and prosperity that's broad-based here in the united states, that confidence will not just increase here in the united states, it will increase globally and we can get the virtuous cycle that i think all of us have been waiting for and want to see. what's holding us back right now ironically is a lot
to gdp in 2013 will be 3.5 percentage point. the economy's growing two percentage points. subtract 3.5, that is a severe recession. >> if we go off the fiscal cliff with no policy changes the near-term negative economic consequences would be significant and most assuredly throw us into a recession. >> comes a day after treasury secretary tim geithner told cnbc the white house is prepared to go the distance if its demands are not met. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again we see there's no agreement that done involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. remember it's only 2%. >> former senator alan simpson, co-founder of the fix the debt campaign, choice words and analysis for would-be cliff jumpers. >> when you have leaders of parties and people from the administration saying, i think it will be to the advantage of the democrats to go off the cliff, wealthy it will be advantage to the republicans to go off the cliff or the president to go off the cliff, that's like betting your cou
and the president. a little christmas cheer some early. the u.s. economy generating a stronger than expected 146,000 new jobs in november helping trim the jobless rate to 7.7%. a four-year low. happy holidays, right? not if you're john boehner. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> yes, indeed, it's like a visit from the ghost of christmas past, casual friday edition. another positive month of jobs numbers, another glum assessment by bah humbug boehner. he couldn't even be bothered to put on a holiday tie to take up the case of mr. scrooge and the top 2%. as nancy pelosi asked, why, oh, why is congress on another recess when they could be extending tax breaks for the middle class just in time for christmas? >> this is a moment of truth, the clock is ticking, christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, why are you not bringing this to the floor? is this a forever, forever protection of the wealthiest people in our country at the expense of the mid
cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> reporter: this morning in his weekly address, president obama is holding a hard line on raising rates for the wealthy. >> and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also go to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >> reporter: but how much higher could be the key to compromise. the top tax rate is set to rise from 35 to 39.6% on january 1st. when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and bide enshowed wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. this is not a negotiatiable issue. theoretically we could negotiate how far up. >> at a local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their acts together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >> reporter: she said it, alex. now john boehner after that comment yesterday he walked back. he took the h
through in the next two years. that's a much bigger risk to the economy. >> therefore? >> therefore, if the president lets this thing -- look, the markets have already priced this in. >> i hear the opposite. i hear that they believe that grown-ups will do the job when they have to. they don't believe they're going to let us go over theically. >> i don't think the grown-ups believe they have to do the job by january 1st. i believe they believe the grown-ups have to do the job by january 30th or february 15th. >> they're going to believe the politicians can get the job done when they failed to get it done by january 1st. >> i hear what steve is saying there. i'm standing in your camp which is a rare spot for me to be in, standing in chris' camp here but i think you're right. i think the markets have not baked this into their equation. >> dysfunction and childishness. >> it has nothing to do would my bottom line in terms of how i'm going to pay for things. as a market force, i don't think they've baked that in. number two, i don't think that the president is going to allow this thing t
weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. that's what w. did and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he looks like he's already doing, getting it done right and on time. he knows it's an unclear dimension, nobody knows, i don't know, how bad the whirlwinds will be if we fail to do this on time. and one thing for certain, there's no guarantee that a huge drop in faith by the world economic markets will be followed by a quick rebound. as i said, this is a real cliff, not a bungy jump. that's "hardball" for now. "politicsnation" starts with al sharpton. >>> thanks, chris. it didn't come from the white house, it didn't come from democrats, it came from senator jim demint. the tea party hero who famously made this vow with the president's health care law. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. >> guess what, it wasn't the president's waterlook but today he announced that he's leaving the senate to run a conservative think tank. and just like that, gone is is a man who represented all of the obstruction, th
out the $800 billion? i for one, if you didn't care about the economy and you didn't care about the american people, you bet your life you can get $800 billion or trillion dollars out of raising -- eliminating deductions and tax credits. >> but conman, he kncongressman you muster all those deductions together they only amount to about $400 billion. >> i think we could do that. i think we can do it. first of all, you have to make certain that local and state tax deductions are not there. then you take away all the charitable deductions that we have. then you take away all of the mortgage deductions for the rich and the middle income, all that you have there. and then you start looking at the deductions that you have for children, for earned income tax credits, for the poor people that are there. if you really look at everything that so many americans have taken for granted and even if you don't reach the $800 billion, at least you will find out what is this man talking about. just don't say you can't do it, it's not arithmetic. give them a piece of chalk, go to the blackboard, an
economy, they invigorate our soul. america can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. as our nation debates the proper course of action relating to immigration, i hope we do so with a benevolent spirit and keep in mind the contribution of immigrants. >> it's a very interesting reminder. jeb bush, of course, has been very outspoken but there is a different wing of the republican party. >> we george w. bush talk about taking a softer line on immigration the day after republicans in the senate refused to ratify a treaty on discrimination against disabled people. those are two different courses for the republican party and i see one thing that strikes me, you have george w. bush here, robert dole, another former presidential nominee on the floor of the state. the party is moving on. these are not the most powerful voices in the party. the speeches we heard yesterday from marco rubio and paul ryan are i think more influential when trying to look at where is the republican party going to go. >> and, in fact, paul ryan here's another little bit of paul ryan speaking at
swinging. . >> raising tax rates will hurt the economy. >> i will not play that game. >> president obama standing his ground. >> i will not play that game. >> he's not willing to play that game. >> playing the smackdown. >> i think the president has boxed the republicans in. >> i know we have it to raise revenue. >> is he the only republican? >> i don't care how we do it. >> raising tax rates hurt the economy. >> let's just go over the [ bleep ] cliff. >> if they do not make this deal on tax rates for the top 2%, then they're going away. >> i just hope this doesn't become a game of chicken. >> i will not play that game. >> it goes into february and march. >> public opinion is on their side. >> when we have to raise the debt ceiling. >> i will not play that game. >> this is about gaining maximum leverage. >> we've gone through this before. >> some republicans believe that will give them more leverage. >> it's government at the brink all the time. >> these guys are not serious about negotiating.ç >> the next 72 hours are critical. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> let's just go o
to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs last month, and that is one reason why today john boehner kind of, sort of maybe entertained the idea of giving president obama what he wants on tax rates, at least rhetorically. >> even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion deficits for as far as the eye can see. listen, washington's got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. >> joining me now are richard wolffe, the executive editor of msnbc.com and an msnbc political analyst, and robert reich, former labor secretary and a professor at the university of california berkeley. he is also the author of "beyond outrage." richard, i want to go to you first here. the president talked quite a bit in the election cycle. >> quite a bit. >> he did, period, about the fever breaking amongst republicans in congress . >> yes. >> it's been quite feverish of late, which is to say a lot of back and forth, a lot of hot air blown from the house caucus. i wonder if you think that fever might be breaking with the suggestion john boehner said, eve
for the american economy. >> what great news, i think. don't you think so, mark mckinnon? i loved the president's tone there, talking about how a deal could be done. and i was critical of him when he did a campaign event up in philadelphia -- or pennsylvania a couple days ago when he wasn't talking to boehner. but if he's talking to boehner one on one and they're going to start this discussion, they go out and make statements publicly and then privately, i think it's a great step forward. >> i think it's a terrific development. i think that the president and boehner created a lot of chemistry over the years and that the distractions have come from other constituencies that have been in the room. i think that they both understand that this is important to both their legacies. and so they have an opportunity for them to just deal together one on one is a terrific development. >> and the president looking -- and you as a businessperson knows this, and i think we've all been in the position of negotiating and you say, okay, do we want to deal with him, or do we want to cut him out at the knees and
hit the economy hard. today we are hearing more from both the president and from republicans. with me now, nbc news white house correspondent mike viqueira. viq, does there appear to be any progress? >> reporter: i don't think so, craig, and we're watching it pretty closely. we thought perhaps after yesterday there would be. but this morning in his weekly address the president says no compromise. those top late rates for the w will raise one way or the other, but the wiggle room may be raise by how much. visiting a d.c.-area diner, vice president joe biden said if the gop were willing, the debt deal could be done in short order. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision was made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent the middle-class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. >> reporter: but even after the latest in a series of private calls with the president, house speaker john boehner says the white house is stone walling. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our econo
. >> the concern people have is the world economy is in a very fragile state right now. i don't have to say what the problems of the eurozone have, they're very manifest. but the global economy as a whole, there's a lack of confidence, a worry about where it's going. so if you in america, and people have a lot of confidence in america in this regard, if you can sort out this issue, then even though that doesn't sort out all the problems of the american or global economy, it would be a big boost and give people a sense of confidence that there was -- you guys have got your act together. the decisions were being taken, and i think it will be good for you and good for us. so i hope you do it. i believe you will. i know right now there's bound to be tough negotiations. the president has been re-elected and i think that gives the situation its own special momentum. i hope you resolve it and then we're going to have to take some tough decisions over our way, too. >> very quickly. there was a cute video of hillary clinton here in washington over the weekend, and it had a clip from you in there. i'll pl
this country back on track and cause our economy to get back on track? the good news is, if we can do a deal on the budget by compromising and coming together, then we can go after immigration and infrastructure and energy and education. the things that are still on the agenda that are crucial to moving this country forward. you know, as important as the debt bill is, it still isn't going to create jobs in the short term. you've got to do energy. we've got to do infrastructure. we've certainly got to do immigration. we owe that to the american people and to those children. there's so many things that we've got to do that if we can do this successfully and get it done and see the economy take off and an investment come into this country, then we go after the other four challenges and if we can do all those, he'll be an incredibly successful president and i think congress' approval rating will begin to rise again. >> joan, it still seems that some of the tea party types, including senator demint still thinks it was the messaging, not the substance that was wrong why they lost the election. lis
economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i have just never seen anything like it. >> yes, indeed, it seems that republicans are not quite sure what to make of the president taking a harder line across the bargaining table. >> you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. the president's plan is just, quite frankly, a joke. >> i'm not sure about that, senator graham, but there will be plenty of time for jokes later this evening with every member of congress invited to the white house for what may be the most awkward holiday party of the year. i want to bring in nbc's luke russert now for the latest on capitol hill. luke, what can you tell us about the r
done that is good for families like this one's and that is good for the american economy. >> indeed. even some of the top minds in conservative circles are waving the white flag of surrender on tax cuts for the top 2%. >> so are you saying then for pr purposes, that they should give into obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am. >> i'm sorry, that was not one of the top conservative minds. that was ann coulter, but you have to and it to her. she's onto something there. a new quinnipiac poll shows 65% of americans support higher taxes on incomes over $250,000. the same survey showing the president's approval rating at a three-year high, 53%. the highest level since the body of osama bin laden was dumped in the north arabian sea. perhaps that's why senate majority leader harry reid felt confident enough to declare that until republicans move on tax rates, more spending cuts are off the table. >> the president made clear, i have tried to make very clear, until there's some movement in tax rates, we're -- i'm not talking about any other proposals, not about where
don't know. we don't know. forget the market. the world economy doesn't know. my question is this. would the republican party like to go over the cliff hanging onto that 2% rich people and say that's why they did it? can they live with themselves if they do it? >> they have -- in some ways the politics for boehner becomes easier. i don't like to call it a cliff. after they go down the slope. >> why? >> because if nothing happens between now and the oerchd the year, all the tax cuts, puff, they disappear. you come back the first week in january and you pass a bill and then the tee partiers, boehner can make the argument to them if twhanlt to be reasonable. now you're voting for a tax cut. not for everyone but for 98%. before that happens the tea party people will say we're voting to raise taxes on the research. if you're voting to let it happen on its own -- >> do you people buy that story? they know what the mechanics of this thing are. >> let me finish one second. the tea partiers have to worry, some of them,ing being challenged from the right if they vote for anything resembling
's not real, even though economies predicted an increase of 93,000 and the unemployment rate holding steady at 7.9. >> yeah. >> stephanie: they are saying unemployment -- employment continueings to be held back by thor fear that the government fails to prevent the fiscal cliff, basically. one those challenges are taken care of, we expect the pace of recovery and job growth to begin to accelerate neck year said one of the key economists. and republicans don't want that. that's the problem. election season never ends for them. they are probably thinking woe can't have the economy turn around because that sets joe biden or whatever up perfectly. mickey you are on the "stephanie miller show." >> caller: howdy. i just want to say a couple of things here that are very serious. the first thing is i'm a gay man in south dakota and i work for a company -- i applied for in an ad in the paper here in my town where i live and there's a 90-day period that you have to work before you can get the job. so they worked me up to the 90th day and i was fired. and i asked why, and they said we
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without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> so could we just agree right now, everybody around the table, that both sides are talking about tax increases for the rich? >> i think so. >> it's just a difference between do you get tax increases for the rich? do you get the revenue by raising the top rate or by closing loopholes? i mean, that is where we are now in the debate, right? there is no difference of opinion. both sides agree that they're going to raise taxes on the rich. >> amount. there's a big difference on amount. you have $800 billion and $1.6 trillion. >> and people like you and i believe as well, we end up at $1.2 trillion in the end. >> here's what i don't -- i hear everybody -- the other positive is that both plans come in about $2 trillion. and the difference is $800 billion and $1.6 trillion in taxes and $400 billion and $1.4 billion respective i, democrat and republican, when it comes to entitlements. it would seem to me, if steve rattner were doing a deal and we were looking at buying or selling something, we'd be in a room figuring out how y
and the president's stance on taxes and goal with the economy and maybe what he will say in the inauguration. look who was invited to the white house >> chris: who was left to run msnbc. >> happy and ed and arihanna huffington. i don't know if the white house released the fact. but someone from the blog sites saw it. and so wait a minute what is going on. yeah, we were invited for not a strategy but just to explain. >> gretchen: i don't know why anybody. >> brian: five talk show hosts in from the same channel? that is outrageous. >> gretchen: it might be outrageous. i am not surprised by it at all. that's the message . that station is delivering the message of this administration. it makes sense. >> steve: that particular channel that's all they would do. it would be nice to see somebody from cbs or nbc or fox news channel. >> brian: it is incredible. >> steve: what do you think that the president's people invited the way left people to a sit down there at the white house. e-mail at folks news.com. >> brian: the president will not talk to republicans unless they agree to raise rates. he hasn't tal
which we do to grow the economy, in infrastructure and innovation and making sure america is always on the cutting-edge of new entrepreneurship, the fact is that we want to do that, the president has put that forward, the election does make a difference, the president is absolutely strong about this. look i was just with him on friday. he came to my district. was at a business. they are showing some of that video right now. local business in my district that was a toy manufacturer and what they said to the president, what they said to me is we, we make more toys when there's consumer demand. let's make sure that middle class americans have dollars in their pockets, they continue to have confidence as consumers or grow that confidence and that our businesses, large and small respond to that, that they begin to see so stability. this is time when we're calling on speaker boehner to work with the president, to work with democrats in congress, and to get done what we have to get done, the american people, middle class and businesses, let's create that stability and confidence that this
around the country and see scores closed, out of business, because of what's goingn with our economy, that really tears my heart up. tax me, i don't care. >> you don't care if you pay more taxes. >> i pay hugh month -- the more money the congress gets, the more may they -- >> i got to see it doing some good. you have a foundation, i have a foundation. we give a lot of money privately to charity wes know, like the wounded warriors, we know they do -- chuck, thanks for coming. >> thank you, bill. >> would you call yourself a consecutive now? >> i've been conservative. on -- because of the position that we're in right now. >> financial position. >> certain financial, and i always said if you're going to wear the badge that we've earned of sheriff of the world. then you better act like wyatt earp. >> that puts you in aminority in hollywood. there aren't some actors they say they're conservative, they won't work. >> being a hypocrite here because i don't like when actors talk politics. >> we never hear you talk politics. >> i don't but i'm on the o'reilly show. >> why don't you like acto
, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, at a time when the american economy was to be exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> joining me, former pennsylvania governor and nbc news political analyst, ed rendell and the co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt here in new york, republican strategist, susan purcell. good afternoon to both of you. governor we'll start with you, both sides seem to be standing firm over what they want out of the fiscal cliff deal this morning. this is what house speaker john boehner said about the state of the negotiations. take a listen. >> i think they're -- they won the election, they must have forgotten the republicans continue to hold the majority in the house. but you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is -- roll over and do what i ask. we need to find common ground and we need to find it quickly. >> governor, are they going to be able to find that common ground quickly? >> yeah, i think they are. you know i have to laugh. in the first term, the president was criticized by his base for giving in t
that are closed out of business because of what is going on with our economy, that really tears my heart up. >> tax me. i don't care. >> you don't care if you pay more taxes? >> i pay a hue mownineying gus amount -- humongous amount of taxes. >> so do i. >> you do, too. >> if it would help i wouldn't mind it. the thing is it will not help. the more money congress gets the more they spend. >> i have to see it is doing some good. you have a foundation i have a foundation. we give a lot of money privately to wounded warriors fisher house the people we know do good. >> chuck thank you for coming. good to see you beguagain. >> thank you, bill. >> would you call yourself a conservative now? >> i have become conservative because of the position we are in right now. >> financial position things like that. >> certainly financial. i have always said you are going to wear the badge that we wear, the sheriff of the world. act like wyatt earp. >> that puts you in a minority in hollywood. >> there is a fear out there with some actors who aren't as accomplished as you are afraid to say they are conservati
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